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of those outside the box ideas that the federal government should take seriously here? >> first of all, i don't know -- i would like to know, first of all how many schools there are in america. high schools, middle schools, preschools, private christian academies? the point is this is unfeasible. i'm not sure it's the right way to go to put an armed guard in every single school in america. who will pick up the taxpayer dla are on that? the counties, it is states? the locals the feds? who will do this? it's impractical. to the some mention i don't like guns in our schools. it's a nice political sound bite and they can use an old statement from bill clinton to say this, but i'm not sure it's a practical idea, frankly. >> first of all, when it comes to education, decisions really do need to be handled on a local level. that's how education decisions should be made. but at the same time i do support the idea of consideration putting an armed patrol officer. my sister in atlanta works at a receiving desk, and she's not prepared or trained for dealing with someone coming into the school. i woul
that has been taken up by our unfunded government programs. that is the number one cause of our fiscal and debt problem and it's not going away. so it looks like 2013 is going to be real. it's going to be dealing with issues of peace and war, national identity and issues of personal security. you think it's not important? say it and you're part of the problem. and that's "hardball" for now. th thanks for being with us. "politics nation" with al sharpton starts right now. >> thanks, chris. and thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead, the gop is in denial and they're scrambling to make a deal. the only problem? they still haven't learned that they're going to have to compromise. just hours ago, president obama returned home from christmas vacation. looking to jump start negotiations and protect millions from seeing their taxes go up. the news comes after a conference call that mr. boehner held with gop house members, telling them to return to washington this sunday. but just because they're coming back doesn't mean they're looking to play nice. today, senator harry reid blasted the s
the federal government cannot let it be known. but they came out with the most recent figures great 72.5% of african americans now are born out of wedlock. 72.3%. american indians, 66.2%. latinos, 53.3%. white people, still pretty high, 29.1%. for asian people, it is 17.2%. so in other words, seven out of 10, six out of 10, five out of 10 for blacks and american indians and latinos because they are the so-called underrepresented in minority who get racial preferences. and a two out of 10 people are typically have racial problems. not only in terms of education but in terms of crime and whatever social indicators that you want. now, that is the real problem. of course, that is not going to be fixed by racial preferences. thank you. [applause] >> thank you, roger. now we will hear from alan morrison, who is the lerner family associate dean for public interest and public service law at the george washington university school of law. he is responsible for creating pro bono opportunities for students, bringing a wide range of public interest programs to the law school, encouraging students
and there will also be spending cuts to government programs as well as the military and that will be spread over with 2013 and the world doesn't come to an end if we go over this quote, unquote, fiscal cliff and instead, a lot of the damage gets spread out and congress does have the power to go back and fix things. >> is it more important that the payroll tax holiday will go away and that is another thing that will end up happening. >> the payroll tax holiday will be a temporary sting, and it was crafted in 2010 and that is right in the waning days of the 111th congress when they still held in control the house of representatives and all of the counter proposals and counter proposals, and house speaker john boehner and the offers we have on the table don't deal with the payroll tax holiday and they go up to people on the amount of money they put in the social security trust fund and that is your payroll tax and those will go up and pretty much regardless if we get a deal or we don't. >> mark murray from d.c., breaking it down for us and the senior editor, thank you, sir. >> as lawmakers in d.c.
the debt ceiling but also come march, you will have to figure out how to extend government spending for the rest of the fiscal year. and they don't, the government would shut down. there are major fiscal fights that need to be resolved beyond the immediate fiscal cliff. we are not even talking about the major policies that you are talking about. immigration reform and gun control legislation, those are things that can fall by the wayside if we are consumed by the fiscal talks which seems likely. >> it seems they crawl from one crisis to the next. thank you, sir, we will see you later in the hour. >> thank you. >> president obama will be talking about the fiscal cliff with david gregory on "meet the press" tomorrow, it's an exclusive interview, check your local listings for the air times. if you miss it, we will rerun it on msnbc tomorrow afternoon at 3:00. >>> want to update you on developing news in houston. george h. w. bush has been released from icugabe is staineding by. you told us two hours ago that the president was singing to doctors and unurses, he sounds like he is doing b
cannot go back and give money to people that can't survive the adjustment by government. this is very serious for working people and lower middle class people. >> you're absolutely right. this is a very serious matter. we need to work earnestly. the house members should be in washington. no reason to wait until sunday night. but i do want to say wup thing, al, and i think this is very important. one of the things that the house leadership is counting on is that we are so attuned to how serious this is that they're going to try to ram anything down our throat. now, let me tell you, we need a deal. we need a good deal. we need a fair deal. but we can't take any deal because this is a serious matter. we need to make sure that they don't make the poorest, vulnerable people pay for this thing. when they're talking about c cutting social security, i'm not guilty with that program. 2 million people's unemployment and a lot of other things -- sandy, help for sandy victims is all on the line here. we've got to get something done. >> i keep hearing this sad sacrifice like we had shared prosperi
. if it cannot abe future that is 100% in accordance with its core beliefs and principles that's not governing. that's lobbing hand grenades. if you are only stabbeding on principle to appear taller, then you appear smaller, and the gop is shrinking daily before our eyes. if leadership casting vision, calling all your people to rise up, and we just watched what happened with lan b and speaker boehner trying to call his people to rise up, and you say his leadership really not in question unless paul ryan really wants it. do you think that people having these types of perspectives, like a mark mckinnan, that doesn't really ring true coming into the new year for speaker boehner. >> look, the problem for republicans and for moderate republicans like mark mckinnan is most of the people in the house are not of the mark mckinnan stripe. these are people who are from districts where they've won with 60% of the vote or more. the majority of them. the majority of their constituents don't want them to compromise on things that they find important like taxes. why someone like mitt romney winds up getting
geithner warned the government would hit its legal borrow i borrowing limit i limit by monday. geithner says the treasury will be forced to take, quote, extraordinary measures to keep paying the bills. he also referenced the impending fiscal cliff, which threatens to derail the economy if a compromise can't be reached by next week on those big unanswered issues. with both sides locked in the standoff, house republicans are calling on senate democrats to act first. democrats aren't budging much on their demands. they want to extend tax cuts and incomes below $250,000, prolong unemployment benefits, and delay those sweeping spending cuts. sam stein. >> yes. >> what happens in -- and it appears it will happen -- we go off the fiscal cliff for a few days? >> not much, is my understanding. kwb, over time, it will have much more of an impact, and it's unknown exactly what the market's psyche will do with respect to the government's inability to come together. with respect to the tax hikes, it won't be as bad as the rhetoric is suggesting early on. whether it's enough to actually get people to
and the government runs out of money. >> that's where i feel all the eyes are on capitol hill. saying you can't do this with the fiscal cliff. what a two months that will be. thanks so much for joining us. we appreciate it. joining me here in the studio with our first reads of the day, senior political editor mark murray. welcome. back and forth from the harry reid. we have congressional ping pong going on. you said it is time for house republicans to put middle class families first bypassing the senate's bill to protect 98% of americans on january 1st. the senate bill could pass tomorrow if the house republicans would lead it come to the floor. the house had two bills that collectively can avert the entire fiscal cliff if enacted. those bills await action by the senate. >> the classic ping pong gridlock and no way out. >> it's important to know how far we have come in the last seven days. a week ago we were closer than we had seen before on a particular deal. john boehner made a big concession allowing tax cuts to rise on income over a million dollars. president obama countered with a big concess
year's was in 1996. that is, of course, when they were dealing with the government shut down. politics will be put aside this morning. the president, a lot of members of congress will be attending that memorial service for the late senator. >> kristen welker in hawaii. we will check in with you again later in our show. >>> from the fiscal cliff to gun control nra executive vice president was on "meet the press" this morning and here is part of what he said. >> i don't understand why you can't just for a minute imagine that when that horrible monster tried to shoot his way into sandy hook school that if a good guy with a gun would have been there he might have been able to stop it. >> nbc news editor is with me in the studio. there were armed guards at columbine. >> we know the nra is going to dig in. nothing is going to change until the other side can show that it can win these kinds of arguments. we saw this with environmental regulations in the 70s. you saw this in the 90s with the assault weapons ban. i think a lot of democrats got spooked after the mid 90s because so many of them l
this israeli government is so spoiled and has shift sod far to the right it makes no effort to take u.s. interest into account. and i agree with that. when netanyahu moved and cut off any chance of a united west bank government, he basically took a step that was completely in the face of u.s. policy going back to george w. bush. >> that's true. i think one of the things to be keep in mind is this pre-nomination process seems to have gotten completely out of control. where congress has too much to say who the presumptive nominees that any president offers forth. over history only 20 cabinet nominees have been knocked back. seven have been rejected and 13 have withdrawn those names. seven of those have happened under the past three administrations. so i think there's something wrong with this whole process where a presumptive nominee is litigated in public and the -- >> how do you avoid this? how do you do it? >> he's got to make a decision. obama has either got to nominate him when he gets back to washington tomorrow or move on. >> is this the vetting process we've got now? in other wo
. the government cannot protect us. they can't be everywhere all of the time. the government is this delusional thing. >> david, it's such a complicated segment. i hate to play into the sound byte mentality that this week has become. we're 5% of the world's population and we have 50% of the guns. >> i think today, the nra planted a flag on planet bizaro. i hate to use a sound byte like that. but we have more guns in this country and we have more gun violence in this country than any other western industrialized nation. and they don't seal ink. and then what they say is we need more guns like our guests just said. that's the world we live in. no, we live in the world where everyone around the country has mentally deranged people. they have violent video games, violent music, as we do. but, yet, they don't have the number of guns we have. and strikingly, oddly enough, they don't have the same gun violence that we do. i don't know why that point escapes lapierre and our guest on the show tonight. >> i feel naive. i really thought today because the nra said they were bringing forth contributions, i
value, at the turn of the 20th century where government spending was 9% of gdp, we're now at 25%. there are some that say, take what we give you and retrofit government to the size of 19% or 20%. do that first. he just wants to shrink what it's grown to, this unwielding federal government that -- don't you think 25% needs to come down? >> well, part of that is cyclical. >> okay. so at 3%? >> 21, 22. >> i would say 22. >> so we have to get it down to 20.5. >> the three big beasts in the budget remain medicare/medicaid, social security and defense. you have to cut almost everything else to zero to get close to balance or to make a big difference. so i think in today's world, given that those entitlements, even if you reform them and cut back back will increase as people like us eventually retire. it seems to me that sizing the government for something around 22 or so is probably doable. but not easy to get to. because you still have to have major cuts and major long titlement reform to get there. >> you see one of the major ceo guys, and i'm not going to quote which one, said yest
the federal government may not be able to pay its bills once the country reaches its borrowing limit on december 31st, which is monday. that could broil financial markets and lead to a financial downgrade. he proposes a series of extraordinary measures to postpone the date that the u.s. would otherwise default on its legal obligations. geithner estimates his plan would free up about $200 billion, providing roughly two months of wiggle room. >>> well, last night on "the rachel maddow show," guest host ezra klein asked former clinton budget director alice rivlin on where we could see the fallout from the fiscal cliff. >> the real uncertainty i think is what the markets will look isn't in control of its own destiny because we're acting that way right now. now, if you're an investor, whether you're in some part of the united states or you're in some other part of the world, do you really want to buy american securities? do you want to invest in a country whose government isn't functioning? i don't think so. so, we could get a big market reaction, a drop in the stock market, and that mig
. if they want to. they have the right to protect themselves. the government cannot protect us. they can't be everywhere all the time. the government has delusional thinking. >> it's such a complicating subject and i hate to play into the sound bite. we're 5% of the world's population and we've got 50% of the guns. >> you know, today i think the nra planted a flag on planet bizarro. i hate to use a sound bite like that. but we have more guns in this country and we have more gun violence in this country than any other western industrialized nation and they don't see a link and, in fact, what they then say is, we need more guns like our guest just said. that's the world we live in. we live in a world where everyone around the country has mentally deranged people, violent movie games, violent music as we do, and yet they don't have the number of guns we have and strikingly, oddly enough they don't have the same gun violence that we do. i don't know why that point escapes wayne lapierre. and our guest on the show tonight. >> mr. siebold, i feel naive. i'm confused. i expected the nra to embr
would only fund the government for eight days. >> the senate is set to reconvene sunday at 1:00 eastern time. the house expected to be in session sunday. are going to start around 2:00 with the first votes coming around 6:30 p.m. let's head on over to the white house. kristen welker standing by. a lot happening in washington, d.c. a lot happening i would assume at the white house. but how engaged is the presidented to in moving this thing forward? >> reporter: good afternoon, t.j. i am told there are conversations going on at the staff level. as you know, he met with congressional leaders here at the white house for about an hour on friday. now sources who are familiar with that conversation tell me that the president essentially said to lawmakers, you have two options. one, come up with a plan that can make its way through both chambers, or allow his proposal to go through a vote in both chambers. and that's what you heard the president referencing in that sound bite that you just aired, t.j. in the president's proposal it calls for extending the bush era tax cuts for those making $250
, infrastructure, we've got education. >> it's a big list. >> it's time this government acts together, and if we can't get together on this, we are in trouble all the way. >> all right. my governors, thanks very much and have a really happy new year. >> thanks, karen. >>> coming up, it's not just the fiscal cliff. the president has a lot to do and not a lot of time to do it. stay with us. >> the president goes off 18 hours on the golf course, 20 hours in the air. how do you view this politically? >> he's been using this, and i must say with great skill and ruthless skill and success to fracture and basically shatter the republican opposition. we're all having such a great year in the gulf, we've decided to put aside our rivalry. 'cause all our states are great. and now is when the gulf gets even better. the beaches and waters couldn't be more beautiful. take a boat ride or just lay in the sun. enjoy the wildlife and natural beauty. and don't forget our amazing seafood. so come to the gulf, you'll have a great time. especially in alabama. you mean mississippi. that's florida. say louisiana or the
it in their paycheck and they will after january 1. the government will be taking more out of their paychecks and when the tax time will roll by in april, they'll feel it and businesses will feel it. once people will see they're losing money on this deal you'll see more public outrage about it. >> david naka, mura, calling for an up or down vote if the senate can't come up with it. he's talking about 250,000, at one point 400,000. is it realistic to think that the president can win this thing on an up or down vote? >> if they actually go to an up and down vote there will be a lot of pressure on those who were against a temporary fix with this to make their case known and actually go on the record. that's why the question is would the republican senators who would oppose this thing at the $250,000 level, they would use some of the mechanisms they have like the fill buster and things that the public doesn't like, but they're certainly part of the tools that the senators have to object to these things. would they block it? as mark murray said, this is about the blame game and setting up and if you'll blo
, wisconsin how governors, particularly republican governs have influence. pence is a conservative who's a believer and i think going to push an agenda that will kind of -- >> i think so, too. that's why i put him on my dozen. perry, you picked two governors. >> jerry brown, really important. first time ever and since 1933 california's a super majority, meaning two thirds of the members of the house and senate are democrats. jerry brown and the democrats do whatever they want. we have one party government in the biggest state in the country and curious what's that mean? >> how does he use it? yep. >> a panacea. nikki haley is struggling. at the same time, she's a big national figure. the republicans are looking for diverse voices and she is a leading one and curious to see what she does going forward. >> all right. stephanie, you picks were -- one was predictable. one to me was unpredictable. >> i picked elizabeth warren who is my home state new senator and of course senator kennedy's seat and very important to me. i think she is probably the most high profile freshman senator -- >> wi
and the president was elected overwhelm lig. so the politics are over. now we're trying to govern the country and i think that's, at least in the house. >> congressman, i got to speak with you twice over the last several days. i appreciate your time. >> you, too. >> this video just in from the scene of a fire in the rochester, new york area. it's reported two firefighters were shot after responding to a large fire at 6:00 this morning. they encountered gun fire as they were getting out to the fire and immediately retreated. one firefighter was shot in the buttocks and is reported to be in satisfactory condition. it's believed that three houses and one vehicle are involved in that fire. residents in the area have been asked to stay in their homes away from windows and doors. we'll keep you up to date on that story. >> over the river and through the woods, no matter how you're getting to grandma's house, we have the update on the holiday rush and the trouble spots. and a republican senator in trouble with the law. u have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if i
to be governed by a constitution written when it was young is like asking a man to wear a child's coat. you don't simply accept as true things that are handed on simply because they are handed off. and we are -- there is a kind of -- back to the future quality to the gun debate in -- in these terms because you have unreconstructed, reflexive gun advocates saying that anything that's done to a document written 200 and x years ago is a slippery slope to chaos and tyranny. but no one at the time would have argued, certainly not thomas jefferson works have argued that this was going to be the law forever. >> tomorrow at this time, talking about president obama's legacy. now to number three in our first five web stories. celebrating winning the world's biggest lottery. $3.3 billion jackpot divided into thousands of cash prizesful biggest winners will get $5 ten 2 million. this is the last time the lotto winners spain can avoid paying taxes. ♪ i always wait until the last minute. can i still ship a gift in time for christmas? yeah, sure you can. great. where's your gift? uh... whew. [ male announce
budget cuts coming down to certainly state and local governments, not a good thing. and so this seemingly bad game of chicken, you know, this is not some schoolyard game here. this is about people's lives, it's about their livelihoods, it's about the future of cities, it's about programs that need the dollars to provide services that the citizens want and expect is lack of doing your job. and so congress, it seems to me, should be flying, literally, back into session to get things done. the marketplace will not reward this inactivity, but more importantly, the psychological confidence that citizens and the business community should have about the ability of congress and washington to actually get stuff done will, again, be shaken. it was mentioned, jonathan mentioned earlier, you mentioned earlier summer of 2011, a useless debate about whether or not we should raise the debt ceiling, had been done 36 times, but we had to have an inane debate about that. now it's the fiscal cliff. and whether or not across the board cuts should be made to all kinds of services and programs because the supe
norquist and his pledge? >> it's odd because grover was the one sort of outside government institution on the conservative side who agreed with speaker boehner's plan "b" which would have allowed taxes to go up above $1 million in income. all the other conservative groups say no. i think grover's pledge, i don't know where it goes from here. obviously is doesn't have as much teeth as is it did because there are people who are willing to buck it. >> i think the key thing with the grover pledge though is that republicans feel like they're in such a corner here, the house is in disarray, boehner doesn't really know where his caucus is going to go. they're not really worried about grover's pledge. they're more worried about rebuilding the party and surviving this horrible moment when they barely control one chamber. >> okay. so i want to run this by you. charles krauthammer from "the washington post" has suggested this kind of complicated theory that the president has a bigger plan here. wonder if we can play this tape of what he says the president's strategy is. >> he's been using this, a
eventually the government might make a list, check it twice and come and take them away. ever since then, you've seen the organization not as the membership level but at the leadership level become more radicalized. after they won the supreme court case identifying a right to own a gun in your home for self-defense, the question i think for them was well, what do we do now. do you fold up a $240 million a year organization? does wayne lapierre give up his $1.4 million a year salary? no. they have methodically gone from state legislature to state legislature chipping away at modest restrictions that most nra members support. so he has a huge problem, i think, based on that bizarre press conference, with the membership of the nra which is quite reasonable. >> ari, i want to get your reaction to the press conference the other day but as an attorney, to sort of talk about that turn because it is sort of a unique kind of feature of the idea of the constitution that you have this unique, you know, the individual right to bear arms. because historically, there's been lots of gun legislation. i was r
making news this morning. activists in syria say government war planes attacked a bakery in a rebel held town killing more than 60 people, some of them children. it appears to be one of the deadliest aerial attacks in that country's nearly two-year long civil war. >>> u.s. senator michael crapo says he is deeply sorry for being arrested and charged with dui sunday. >>> in honolulu, president obama and first lady michelle obama attended a memorial service for senator inoyue. >>> comments from mitt romney's oldest son that has gotten people talking. it has been seven weeks since the election and there has been a steady stream of details coming from both campaigns. now comes the revolution from tagg romney that his father had no desire to run for president again, at least at first. we have more on that story from boston. >> i have just called president obama to congratulate him on his victory. >> reporter: as mitt romney, members of his campaign staff and top gop leaders continue assessing how he lost the election to a vulnerable incumbent president, the oldest son of the former massachuset
. >> and happy holidays to you as well. some stories making news this morning. activists in syria see government warplanes attacked a bakery in a rebel-held town killing people including children. it appears to be one of the deadliest aerial attacks in the nearly two-year-long civil war. >>> michael crapo is sorry after been arrested and driving under the influence near washington, d.c., early sunday. >>> and in honolulu, president obama and the first lady attended a memorial service for senator daniel inouye, the world war ii veteran who died last week at age 88 after serving nearly 50 years in congress. >>> now to new comments from mitt romney's oldest son that have gotten a lot of people talking. it's been seven weeks since the election and there has been a steady stream of behind-the-scenes details coming from both campaigns. now comes the revolution from tag romney that his father had no desire to run for president at least at first. we have more on that from boston. >> i have just called president obama to congratulation him on his victory. >> reporter: as mitt romney, top gop leaders cont
the budget because it all starts with that for our economy, for the state of our state government, for our families. and then making sure that we are growing. in my view, that means that we are attracting innovative businesses here, helping innovative businesses grow here, addressing the skill gap we have in the state by making sure we have the right kind of k-12 community college, university system and giving the right kind of assistance, especially to our small businesses in areas of trade. so that is what i want to focus on. and also just, again, making sure that all new hampshire citizens feel that they have an opportunity to participate, contribute what they have to offer. there's so much that all of the granite state citizens have and a lot of people of talent and energy. we need everybody to participate. if that is how we can proceed, i think we will be better off two years from now. >> i would echo that. my ultimate goal is equal opportunity for all and part of that is general -- is gender- related. i want to give out a shout out to private employers who can do better. i was very f
there was an obsession on the part of the cia and the government to find people who did the terrible thing to america that they did on 9/11. why was it important for you to show that? >> well, i think it was important for us to tell a true story. and it's part of the history. it's controversial, but it's part of the history. >> david edlestein too much torture in this as a way of making if bigger at the box office? >> i don't think so. we know there was a ton of torture. my problem in some ways, there wasn't enough because one of the problems with the film is that there's no context for the torture. they torture the right people at the right time. they get the intel that they're looking for. what you don't see is the vast number of casualties of innocent people pulled in and tortured and all kinds of nonsystemic ways, generating absolutely no valuable intel whatsoever. now peter can speak to that a lot better than i can. i'm a film critic. my idea of torture is a stallone movie. from peter's book and others, that, you know, this just context actually this is just -- this is just very misrepresentativ
a ultimat a. >> we have allowed the federal government to be intrusive. every time we get on a plane. we have allowed our 9-year-old children to be stopped and frisked. our grandmothers to be 0 stopped and frisked. all of these people that -- our loved ones every time we go it through a tsa screening. we're willing to do that because of the attacks of 9/11 but we're not willing to tell a small niche of gun enthusiasts that they can't carry around semiautomatic combat style weapons with these magazine clips that allow you to reel off 10, 15, 20, 30 bullets per second that spin and rip young children to shreds? re really? real really? i don't think so. >>> coming up, our discussion of the top stories of the year continues. and later, the most memorable moments from mitt romney's run for the white house for better or for worse. you are watching "morning joe" brewed by starbucks. [ male announcer ] with over 50 delicious choices of green giant vegetables it's easy to eat like a giant... ♪ and feel like a green giant. ♪ ho ho ho ♪ green giant >>> welcome back to "morning joe." we want t
are democrat. jerry brown and the democrats can do whatever they want. we have basically one party government and i'm curious what that means. >> how does he use it. >> a liberal panacea for the first time. >> and you went with a conserve tf potential rising star in south carolina who is struggling. >> nikki haley is struggling in her state. at the same time, she's a big national figure. the republicans are looking for diverse faces, and she's one of the leading ones. i'm curious to see what she does. >> stephanie, your picks were -- one was predictable, one was a little unpredictable. >> i picked elizabeth warren who is my home state's new senator. she has senator kennedy's seat so it's important to me. i think she's probably the most high-profile freshman senator. >> without a doubt, probably since hillary clinton? >> i think you're right. and she's coming in the same way, keeping her head down, looking for people to work with, reach across the aisle, moderating. i don't know, i don't want to guess, but i know there are some great things she can accomplish there. potentially, it's rumored s
are charged with the responsibility of governing this nation can't come to some sort of agreement to put this sdasries event off. >>> what if both sides actually are -- what do both sides stand to gain by going over the cliff in that's what our next guest points out, where he says that many of them have calculated it is better to go over the cliff, at least temporarily, than swallow a raw deal. with me is jonathan allen. it's good to have you here. break it down for us. what's in it for both sides? >> i think what is at work here is going over the fiscal cliff is a better option than the worst-scale snare i don't. it matt not be the optimal snare i don't, but for republicans, they would have an tune to vote for tack cuts. they also may figure they'll have an opportunity to negotiate for other items. they don't want to cave for president obama. on the democratic side, they're winning the public relations war on this. republicans, if you look at the polls are in the 20s right now, president obama is sitting in the mid 50s on the fiscal cliff. they don't want to give up things. they don't w
vocal. >> they are important when you have a system of government in the house where you have to pass things. the majority itself. the majority of the majority. that was pretty much in effect when democrats controlled for 40 years as well. there were rare occasions. president clinton massed nafta, the free trade agreement in 1993. the majority of republican votes for it and democrats against it. it's only 20 votes, but that is the difference between boehner getting what he wants and not. if he loses, he can only lose fewer than that in january. he needs a bill that commands a lot of democratic support. >> people say it will be one of the most powerful people. it will be more powerful because she has the upper hand and she knows it. she will have to deal with it at least 75 to 100 votes. >> and again the marks sustain this idea of okay, this new more moderate congress coming in and these voices will be put down to a degree or will we see dire financial implications off the bat? >> the lesser because even if they managed to harsh out the small deal that president obama is putting forwar
financial gifts from the government, and then work very aggressively to turn them out to vote, and that strategy worked. >> that explanation got mitt romney attacked and condemned by the likes of bobby jindahl and other republicans. they're now trying a new approach. tag romney said this about his father. he wanted to be president less than anyone i knew in my entire life. he had no desire to run, says tag, who worked with his mother and to persuade his father to seek the presidency. if he could have found someone else to take his place, he would have been ecstatic to step aside. too bad he never told newt gingrich that. joining me now, msnbc's joy reed. i'm on the verge of feeling sorry for them, trying to come up with these crazy reasons about why he lost. and now they want to pretend that this guy who lived his whole life in order to run for president didn't really want to run for president. >> yeah, i know, lawrence. there is nothing more failing than failing to win something and say, i didn't want to win, anyway. who wants that. the problem with that, of course, is the hi
and oversight and government reform committee chairman tom davis. hello, gentlemen. nice to have you back. >> good morning. >> representative frost, we heard senator barroso there. does president obama want to go over the cliff? >> no, i don't believe that at all, alex. i've talked to people at a high level of the white house. they are concerned the effect this could have on the stock market, on our economy generally as well as the world markets. they don't want to go over the cliff. they've made a reasonable offer. they've moved to $400,000 as a cutoff, let everybody under that amount have their tax cuts. i feel sorry for speaker boehner who couldn't deliver his own party. if he'd been able to do that, at least somebody would have headed over to the senate and there could have been action. senate has to originate something. up to mitch mcconnell and harry reid to figure out something, send it back to the republicans in the house and hope enough will join democrat and vote for it. >> given the reasons for which mr. boehner was unable to deliver his own caucus in the house, do you think an
of the principles are that there are people who simply do not believe in government. so for them, gumming everything up is part of following their principles. >> better than the 113th or not? >> yes. better. better. more democrats, so, of course, better. >> karen, i expect nothing less from you. >> the man speaking now for the 99%. i appreciate your time, too. >>> now that it's official and president obama has nominated john kerr ty to head up the sta department, we'll talk to bill richardson. stick around for that. >> the horrific shooting in newtown, connecticut, has prompted many to respond with activism including moms who will gather a million other like them and march on washington. one of them joins us next. new prilosec otc wildberry is the same frequent heartburn treatment as prilosec otc. now with a fancy coating that gives you a burst of wildberry flavor. now why make a flavored heartburn pill? because this is america. and we don't just make things you want, we make things you didn't even know you wanted. like a spoon fork. spray cheese. and jeans made out of sweatpants. so grab yourself s
, mika, the fact that we have allowed the federal government to be intrusive. every time we get on a plane, we have allowed our 9-year-old children to be stopped and frisked, our grandmothers to be stopped and frisked. you know, all of these people that are our loved ones. every time we go through a tsa screening, we're willing to do that because of the attacks of 9/11, but we're not willing to tell a small niche of gun enthusiasts that they can't carry around semi-automatic combat-style weapons with these magazine clips that allow you to reel off, you know, 10, 15, 20, 30 bullets per second that spin and rip young children to shreds. really? really? is that where we're -- i don't think so. >> coming up, our discussion of the top stories of the year continues. and later, the most memorable moments from mitt romney's run for the white house, for better or for worse. you're watching "morning joe," brewed by starbucks. there is no mass-produced human. so we created the extraordinarily comfortable sleep number experience. a collection of innovations designed around a bed with dualai
have three banch branches of government. let's go with that. most have vie -- an independent executive works well for massachusetts and new york. let's build on that. many of the bill of rights. george mason he gives u.s. virginia bill of rights. that's model for the federal bill of rights. abolition of slavery occurred in several states. and we have to study, you know, and make amendments. what has gone before us. we have the duty to the future, i think we danger it best when we actually are understanding or respectful of the past. that's part of the national archives is about. if i could just, on a personal note, tell you the story why i'm here. and justice thomas' presence needs no explanation. he's justice thomas. what the heck am i doing here? well, when i was 11 years old, i came to the national archives, and i got this document that is big, big verse of the emancipation proclamation, and it was edition of the emancipation proclamation. you can take a look at the 100th anniversary of september 1962 and the archives released that a special edition for kids like me. and i got my pi
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